So parents and leaders stood in a line and created a path to the temple. Though the title may sound negative towards meetings, the book is all about making meetings a place where work gets done and people want to be. I am not sure if I am reading your comment in the right tone but it sounds like my article offended you. Like I said above, the longer a meeting goes, the more creativity diminishes. Youve never been a Church Leader before have you? I get it. Rule 8 Do not establish unbreakable rules of Church meetings by doing so you may limit or constrain the Spirit; we should allow the Lord to direct us in our meetings through the Spirit. Be sure to pass this article on to your stake president. I agree with a lot that you said but feel bad that you classify my opinion in a negative light. It discusses the different types of meetings organizations should/could have. Establish a climate conducive to openness, where every person and group is important and every opinion is valuable. Individuals have different viewpoints and backgrounds, so each can add a helpful perspective to understanding members needs. The final item on the agenda was to be a discussion on dealing with individuals with mental illness (a topic that was very important to me). It takes a very good meeting to be better than no meeting at all., (Said at my stake conference in Concord, NH.). Latter-day Saints are using ward and branch councils to bless the lives of those in need. Br. We would then have time for the important items on the agenda. 2012, 3033. Some of the ideas are new to me and some I have been trying to bring into meetings for years without much success. That is definitely a meeting that takes more than 60 minutes and you cant just stop in the middle when the timer rings. The length of a meeting should be kept to the minimum amout of time need to fulfill the goal of the meeting. Thank you for sharing. But last year, this favorite thing to do became a problem. When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. Touch device users, explore by touch or with swipe gestures. Her perspective will be beneficial when the ward council is considering an issue that affects the children of the ward. I have generally been involved in music and managed to avoid lengthy council meetings. during a meeting, which I do in most of the meetings I attend. I have retired 15 years ago and we are on our second mission. I am not sure if this is an appropriate venue for posting this, but here is a link to a google sheet that will enable a unit leader to make a customized Bishopric and Sacrament Meeting Template. One statement that was never uttered in the School of the Prophets, Oh, sorry, I thought I put this on silent.. He established a clear, simple vision, from which all activities fed into and moved the ward closer to realizing that vision. To help stress the principle taught in 2:4.6.11 (see quoted paragraph above), the agenda structure removed all references to separate organizations and instead listed the missions of the Church: Beginning each meeting with a spiritual thought typically out of the scriptures or a general conference talk followed by a very brief discussion (2-3 comments tops) invites the Spirit, sets the tone, and starts the council thinking with a spiritual mindset. Required fields are marked *. Both the article and the numerous comments have been enlightening and informative. If things were crazy at home and his family needed more attention, one quick text message would free up his evening; as a counselor, he didnt have that luxury. These members watched their parents put in so much time in their callings growing up that it turned into resentment. Let them do so. To learn more about succeeding in your calling, visit the Leadership Training Library, available in several languages at leadershiplibrary.lds.org. SheI need to get home and fix dinner for my family! Not all wards need to do this, but if a ward needs to do blitzes, it should do blitzes. Hold a meeting to have a meeting. Fighting against tradition and helping members open their minds may have been the most difficult step. Would he complain and be miserable or make the best out of the situation. Id even go so far as to say that any meeting can be done in 30 minutes and Ill encourage you to try, but you can be comfortable with 60. The EQ Pres. President Hinckley apparently was really big on being super on time. Rifling through papers is inefficient and time consuming. Then he presents the issues and debates begin. We need to challenge the status quo. Thanks for sharing. Handbook 2 (4.6.3) states, the ward council seeks inspiration in developing a course of action to bless the lives of members. It comes via one-by-one ministry. Enter dates to see prices. Calling peoples ideas dumb isnt the best way to have an effective dialogue that results in better ideas. #5 No tech is a mixed bag. They got over it. Without tech I would not be able to look at my calendar, look up what calling someone has, etc. The Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts usually do this on a Saturday morning or afternoon and sit down with the Troop Committee/Scout Master and use a planning calendar. Now having said that, there are things we can do that can make our meetings more effective and efficient, some of which were mentioned, but they are hardly unbreakable. Usually the bishop takes a paper with some notes. When I say meeting I am not referringto any meetings in the 3 hour block. Assuming every participant is prepared (which is rare), assuming every participant is on time (which is rarer), assuming every participant is fully trained and well-experienced in his or her calling (which is even rarer and certainly wont last more than a week or two), yes, meetings can be efficient. There are still those that are hanging onto tradition, however, After this next generation, I think itll be gone. Judgement. by mcdarby Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:07 am. (2010 World Wide Leadership Training). All were covered with wasp stings. That happens all over the world. Seems to me the article reflects the authers personal standards and that they want them to be church standards. Or they are afraid to step outside the BOX! Nope. Here is a quick review of the book from the BYU Studies web site: I do try the softly, softly approach and try to always sustain my leaders. Can you help me reconcile Jensens statement with what your saying? Good direction here, but I think it does need to be said. Elder Bruce R. McConkie's Last Talk. I cant imagine sitting through a 3 hour branch coordination. Sometimes I think we forget that we are all Brothers and Sisters with lots of faults, warts, weaknesses, and imperfections! That agenda should be shared with attendants beforehand. And some of these items need to be addressed before Sunday, so when can we meet again before Sunday? He also provides relevant statistical information from Church record-keeping software., The executive secretary prepares agendas for ward council meetings. I have served in just about every calling.Temple leadershipMission Presidency, Stake Presidency, Bishop, HPGL, all of that. All of my bishopric meeting was run through Google Docs. I am a Laurel class president and chair 1-2 meetings a month. The current pattern has certainly been by a unanimous choice/preference of those participating. Its not exactly their fault if they dont know how to conduct a meeting. I whole-heartedly disagree with your guideline of no tech. One time when we had some serious family issues going on, my husband had to miss the morning meetings on Sunday. Offer nativity/creche exhibit (s) for viewing. People werent made for clocks; clocks were made for people. Inspiration follows. Leaders need to give autonomy to those they lead. If the HC needs to hear the missionary report, attend the sacrament meeting when he/she speaks. All However, the title of the article is How to Make a Ward Council a Revelatory Experience, and that requires more that what this article points out. I Knew We Needed to Find the Book; CHARITY. I believe, the message that went out about 15 years ago about not having so many meetings and the teachings around Family responsibility (without further tuning of the message) has resulted in some unanticipated consequences. As the council discussed the needs of a single mother with a young daughter who has health problems, the Relief Society president knew of a job where the mother could work and still be near her daughter. Handbook 2 (18.2) tells us that ward council should be held regularly (at least monthly). Ive heard about general authorities visiting local stakes and encouraging bishops to hold ward council more than just once a month. I think these are some really reasonable tips to improve the efficiency of meetings, but the article is titled How to Make Ward Council a Revelatory Experience This list of dos and donts will help a meeting run smoother and prevent some of the roadblocks that bog down a meeting, but to have a meeting become a revelatory experience requires much more spiritual preparation on the part of those involved that what this list requires, which was the point of Elder Bednars remarks. We are on fire!!! This was done to help speed our process, help us remember who was in what position, what positions were open, etc. He is thinkingI wish that he would shut up! The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - Wikipedia Provide a musical event that celebrates Christ's birth, like a cantata. He worked harder than any of us to purify himself and seek revelation. We need to build up each other, encourage, uplift, motivate, set the example, and help out where ever we can. Thanks for sharing. He Fasted and Prayed I observed that my bishops ascent to the mountaintop started well below sea level, meaning he had a steep learning curve despite his years of experience as a bishops counselor. Set it for 60 minutes and tell everyone in the room they are free to walk out once that timer sounds. The 12th Article of Faith states, "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." In honor of the Fourth of July we have compiled 10 patriotic quotes from various leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: 1. Metrics (quarterly reports and key indicators) were touched on perhaps we could have done more of that. Very true, but I would consider reorganizing visiting teaching and administrative task so it shouldnt be done in a meeting. I have taught mtg. Replies to my comments #7 Cancelling meetings If you find that not much is impacted by fewer meetings, then you should definitely be cancelling more meetings. Maybe what I am pulling from this isnt that people need to worry about time limits (yes they still do) .but need to be prepared. They dont communicate very well with their counselors. Honesty is the very essence of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Anyone can choose to not attend a meeting with or without an excuse. And yet we are all Children of our Father in Heaven! 6 Rosenstrasse, 91781 Weissenburg in Bayern, Bavaria, Germany. Especially if there isnt an agenda. He Counseled with His Bishopric Council If he wanted an amazing and engaged ward council, hed learn how to do it first at the bishopric council level. Because 60minutes of people being unprepared is still as ineffective as 90min or 2 hours of people being unprepared. That is not true everywhere..yet. He was constantly pulling us away from our desk in order to hold a meeting and get our perspective on things., It is tempting to use a meeting to process administrative tasks. every other meeting would be done over a conference call we found ways to make it effective by doing certain types of discussions over the phone/video while others might be saved for face-to-face. If you dont give the meeting a time limit, it will grow out of control. We were having fun and working hard. IMPROPER CONTENTS. Love. Ugh, meetings. The bishopric is responsible for all ward members, organizations, and activities. Sometimes I feel like we expect perfection out of our church leaders, teachers, and members. They work together in love to serve and strengthen individuals and families in the ward or branch. When we got there the meeting was closed as we had gone over (over what I dont know). Tons of Coal; FORGIVING. The bishop can delegate to quorum and group leaders some of the work he does with families. The bottom line leaders needs to be sensitive to the time demands on members, have an agenda and run meetings as efficiently as possible, and follow the Spirit. He will achieve His goals through our works.. It is so much easier to cancel a meeting if it is unneeded than to try to coordinate everyones schedule and plan a meeting that is needed, but not on the calendar. This same idea could also be used in the various church organizations. Find out (if possible) what keeps them from preparing, is it the timing of the meeting, is it circumstances at home and in the family. They want the ward council to work together more often and elevate the ward in general; however, Im not sure if scheduling moremeetings is the answer. The one meeting that sticks out in my mind was a regional priesthood leadership meeting led by Pres. I think if we treat the adults like adults, instead of children, you would be surprised how much can actually be accomplished in a meeting even with people using their phones. If he was the only person able to receive revelation then there would not be any reason to hold a council meeting. "God expects you to have enough faith and determination and enough trust in Him to keep moving, keep living, keep rejoicing. It had the ancillary outcome of training his counselors and giving them the experience that he wished hed gotten. Thanks for sharing! Remember Satan and all of his followers and complainers were all kicked out of heaven! Having an agenda makes a HUGE difference in the effectiveness of a presidency meeting. I Can't Trust You; EVIL. A missionary is released with a Stake President 10 min meeting and great job, so why do we need to take hours for them reporting to the High Council. I think it was this thread that put me into the zone seriously. This was patterned from bishopric training given by our stake presidency at the time. I detest meetings where there are no agendas. No one could show him the way, or help him with the burden, other than the Lord. Assignments were made and we concluded as the timer in my pocket, set for 45 minmutes, buzzed. As they do, they will harness the extraordinary power of these councils to help the Lord bless His children and accomplish His work. Id go to one of your meetings. I never really noticed this dynamic until I was bishop, but many times the bishop feels like people are waiting on him to come up with an idea or to lead the discussion in a certain direction. I agree, people cant be getting calls or texting others in a meeting, but without my team utilizing tech, we would have been seriously hampered. We were removing a large oak tree from the roof of the Seminary Institute Director. Id love to hear any further thoughts you have. I note several spelling errors Please forgive them. The same goes with any point made in the article. And if you cant or dont understand when there is a need to be flexible, then return to the step one, of seeking the spirit. If your tech distracts you, then get rid of it. When the vision is set by the key holder, then discussed and molded by the council, each contributing member of that council feels a sense of ownership, and their downstream activities will stem from the vision they helped create. I was concerned when my husband was called about the impact it would have on our family life. We had a response plan in place because we had talked about these preparations in ward council before they happened, he said. I have sat in wonderment at some of the things said about people. Elder Bednar was teaching the principle of being spiritually prepared to participate in councilswhat we do beforehand that will invite the spirit into our council meetings. Im not sure how to resolve this as we have to continue functioning. Here are my observations of how this bishop achieved so much: Meetings, callings, the church itself: are all pointless unless there is a vision. How would you like to spend council time? I apologize. Do you want to become like Satan or like Christ? I think that goes without saying. And I have been in nice, succinct meetings that were a total waste of time. I think one thing that I learned as an Elders Quorum President and a Sunday School President was to send my counselors to the Ward Council and PEC meetings! I believe my mothers advice: if your meeting is longer than it needs to be, you end up gossiping as a group. I thought of the Lord's divine guidance as they acted in faith. But in our case, its much less intrusive on the time of our members if we have a meeting that goes a little later instead of having an additional meeting that requires them to travel again. I also strongly object to the language you use in point #6. Council members are siloed, i.e., concerned only about their own organization, and not the ward as a whole. Suggest that as a ward council you should be prepared to share testimony of heart and mind with the members of the ward. Its an opportunity for teaching and learning. You can run ANY meeting in the world in an hour, if you know what youre doing. The Joplin First Ward was hit hard by the twister, but right away Bishop Chris Hoffman and the ward council started accounting for ward members. Please respect my extremely limited time as a working parent. Meetings are for reporting. I know how that feels, because we had 6 missionaries in one branch and branch coordination would last for almost 3 hours just because the way we (the missionaries) were reporting was really inefficient and it would go from there to the brainstorming no-no that dragged it out even longer while people tried to come up with solutions. This gave the children courage to move forward. So, just curiousif we truly see these as being revelatory experiences, then they should be treated similarly to our sacrament meetings. As Melissa looked at the faces of the members of the ward council, she saw genuine affection and concern. I believe many church meetings are a total waste of time. If the church leaders would wake up and admit, IT IS I! While I agree with you in general, this depends a lot on the type and objective of the meeting. I have been in 8 hour meetings in a business setting where every minute was used effectively and set expectations and approaches in a way that guided everything the team did. Do whateverworks for you, as long as those attending the meeting know what will be discussed and have time prior to the meeting to process the information. Removing the Poison of an Unforgiving Spirit . Required fields are marked *. Everyone will feel obligated to say something and that doesnt help to keep the meeting under 60 minutes. Elder Oaks gave a definition back in April of 2014 when he said, Priesthood keys are the authority God has given to priesthood [holders] to direct, control, and govern the use of His priesthood on earth. In a ward council meeting, for example, the bishop is the one directing the meeting according to the keys he holds. That will be the greatest contribution to having a revelatory experience. Im open to better ideas, so write your own list and send it to me. Other books, talks, articles, experiences, etc. Sixty minutes is too much if anything. Austin Today I went to Ward Council and gave the Spiritual Thought. A Psalm of Thanksgiving. Or week by week. "We should bear in mind that the success of a given activity cannot always be judged by its size. Same meeting, same prayer and someone else struggles with it for several minutes. Also when you use a written agenda have meeting minutes prepared afterwards and send them out to everyone that requires them. All church leaders should go visit Toastmasters meetings! Plus it gave me a break from having to attend so many meeting! People would enjoy their callings more and sense more satisfaction. Fighting against tradition and helping members open their minds may have been the most difficult step. Thank you so much for this great post. She did not remind me, and knowing her, she would have attended our meeting. Preparation or the lack thereof can speak to the spiritual maturity of your councilors, or the circumstances they find themselves in. is thinking.I could be out with my presidency visiting families. Im not trying to push my ideas on anyone, Im just sharing them. As each man stood, I thought of the miracle that had taken place in his life and in the lives of the women and children around him. And hold people accountable! Honey.I have the Ward Council to go to. Ward Activities. Too many times only the President attends these meetings. Basic LDS (Mormon) gospel principles are organized according to beliefs we have for the Premortal, Mortal and Postmortal lives. In a Stake we would do some alternating. In an effort to do this, lets review the 7 Unbreakable Rules of Church Meetings. I don't know why I've been so blessed but this experience has been a major part of my adult life. If you have folks who wont (or dont) do administration outside of the meetings, then that admin has to get done sometime, somewhere. But if the meeting is consistently a revelatory experience, members of the ward councilwont dare miss it. All The Problem with "Old School" Councils. 4 min. Two fathers have started coming so their kids can get baptized. When that relationship is there and improved, the recommends, baptisms, etc., will come organically. When she reached inside her bag for a notebook, she came across a picture of 28 Primary children on the steps of the Palmyra New York Temple. lds ward council spiritual thought Truth is, she has never stopped attending her Mormon ward. The next day at sacrament meeting, the ward member said that he was glad the bishop had his watch as well so he knew he had ended his work on time to honor the Sabbath day. While Church leaders have not addressed Halloween in particular, they have addressed some Satanic practices associated with this time of year. They attend all of the Ward Council or PEC Meetings themselves. I have sat through high council meetings that were 2 1/2 hours long. Organizations had not been doing regular visits, despite repeated requests, invitations, etc., so he decided to own it at the ward council level while believing that it should have been owned by each organization. I appreciate your comment AND your passion. March 26, 2015 Our PEC, welfare, and ward council meetings tend to run exactly the same, essentially a round robin of auxiliary reports. Im a firm believer in keeping meetings under an hour. It may well be time to re-revisit the tech options at hand. No excuse is required. I have attended meetings that were too long at 20 min and at 2hrs plus that were not too long. I have started a silent protest with my spouse. I think you did the right thing. Handbook 2 ( 4.6) advises ward council should be 60-90 minutes in duration. Among other callings, Mike served as a full-time missionary (Japan Tokyo South), early morning seminary teacher, elders quorum president, ward mission leader, and in multiple bishoprics despite his large, young family. Ding! We can offer positive suggestions and ideas. TIME. Thanks again for sharing and please share any future successes. Sixteen of those years included Bishopric meetings, either as an Executive Secretary, a Ward Clerk, or a Bishop's Counselor.. Cheshire Cat: That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. I usually ask to be released when I run into a church leader like this. We expect perfect church meetings! Don't subscribe I have seen both sides of the fence and it is joy when people are prepared to have as Elder Bednar taught a revelatory experience . See more ideas about spiritual thoughts, lds quotes, church quotes. They make all of the decisions themselves! It comes when a youth leader has a candid conversation with a young man who trusts him. The monthly branch council reflects their caring. The primary work of the ward council takes place in living rooms where tears are shared and dried, and testimony is borne. However you do need to keep certain items confidential. Doctrine and Covenants 6:36 Look unto me in every thought; doubt not, fear not. As Melissa turned her attention back to the ward council meeting, she thought, If only everyone could be surrounded by such loving friends and leaders as they progress toward the temple., Her thoughts were interrupted as she heard the Relief Society president comment on a sister in need: She wasnt at church last Sunday. Does anyone have a file of successful agendas you use in your ward? From Battlefield to Mission Field; The Faith of a Child; FATHERHOOD. Have you ever tried to reorganize visiting teaching? And to strengthen the mind portion of their personal testimonies. I would love for better instruction to be given in the church handbook about HOW to conduct effective meetings because people called to leadership positions dont necessarily have any experience in that area at all. I would think about where I was supposed to be next, how this leader wasting my time, and checking my watch, and saw others zoning out as well. (See Handbook 2: Administering the Church, 4.1; 4.2. To say a meeting is never worth 61 minutes is putting artificial constraints on the spirit and leaders that are not appropriate. I serve as a stake executive secretary in Southern Spain, where the Church isnt that old (the country was dedicated in 1969). It was gratifying for me as a bishop to hear members say, This is what Ive done, instead of, What do you want me to do?, The response in Joplin shows the power of a united ward council. The bishop may also ask him to help follow up with ward council members on their assignments. They have different levels of education, knowledge, backgrounds, training, experence, culture, expectations, gospel maturity, etc. We can also choose to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. And on the bright side I do believe there will be better members, better leaders, and better meetings in the next life! Ramiro Reyes, first counselor in the branch presidency, says of the branch council: We are instruments in the hand of the Lord. BOOK OF MORMON. A Vision of Heaven. Oct 29, 2020. I dont think there is a bishop in the church that would say they dont try to run their meetings by the spirit. But I do think he spent most of his time healing others, blessing others, cheering up others, encouraging, motivating, forgiving, looking for the good in others, living the gospel, and spreading the gospel. We just had a stake presidency meeting last night via video conference. Many members need help finding work. We had a hurricane come through our city. The high priests group leader and the elders quorum president are responsible for the spiritual and temporal welfare of the men over whom they preside. The training, discussions, visits, and experiences with the Spirit led each council member to individually conclude that our most important work is helping ward members our brothers and sisters achieve a more satisfying relationship with their Savior and their Father. Look at their body language. Thanks for writing this article. I no longer have to carry around loads of materials like a bag lady. This is a sample of what it looks like with fake names. You will see how to run effective meetings! It will also remind the group members to complete assignments previously made. The branch council finds that the members challenges can often be solved at the local level. He didnt just tell us what to do but stressed a council mentality and discussion. They do a great job setting up meetings, conducting meetings, and using agendas! I couldnt agree more! Im definitely still learning. See more ideas about spiritual thoughts, church quotes, lds quotes. minute meeting and accomplished all that was needed. I keep notes, carry scriptures and manuals, maintain a calendar, and just about everything else on an iPad. Daniel 10:12,19 Russia Yekaterinburg Mission They were happy to have music . She does all she can to help the women increase their faith and personal righteousness, strengthen families and homes, and help those in need. President Monson will apparently come late to a meeting, even with all of the general authorities, if he feels prompted to minister along the way. Thus, polling your council members can confirm and refine your efforts. How you run a meeting has a dramatic influence on how you are loved as a leader. I have and it might be more isolated to my experience in working with ward and stake leadership. I had forgotten that my counselors son was arriving back from his mission a few hours prior to our scheduled meeting. Besides, people are more apt to go to church at Christmas time. Our ward is doing so much missionary work and so many inactive and part member families are coming back. I have a problem with calling everything a meeting. They were painful. Giving everyone a chance to state randomness unrelated to the agenda is a waste of time. I think we need to do the best we can with what we have. So, I dont think this really addresses where our meetings are going wrong and it goes deeper into changing attitudes and cultures among (mostly) younger members of the Church. If you run a bad meeting, the only thing to increase is the eye-rolling. Yes, we have been assigned callings, but ultimately, WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS. Awesome points, everyone! However, We are also a volunteer church and we have a volunteer lay leadership and not a trained professional ministry. 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